Pierre Boulez et les nanotechnologies
Je ne vous mentirai pas en vous disant que je ne suis pas loin de penser, comme Léo Ferré, que "la télé c'est de la merde". Toutefois, il m'arrive de la regarder, et même des matches de foot, ce que j'assume entièrement !
Mais là n'est pas le propos. Deux fois cette semaine j'ai regardé France 5, et suis tombé sur de purs chefs d'œuvre de propagande.
Ce dut d'abord une soirée consacrée aux nanotechnologies (que le collectif P.M.O - Pièces et Main d'Œuvre, fréquemment cité par Jean-Luc Porquet dans le Canard Enchaîné, appelle de manière plus juste "nécrotechnologies"). Où l'on nous ressasse que les nanotechnologies vont sauver l'humanité du cancer, qu'elles sont une avancée considérable pour la médecine, etc etc, ad vomitum. Comme s'il était déjà acquis que ces nanotechnologies ne présentaient aucun risque pour la santé - ce qu'on comprend aisément, vu que l'amiante n'a représenté aucun risque pour la santé durant des décennies. Comme si ces nanotechnologies n'intéressaient nullement les militaires… Enfin, passons.
Puis ce soir, un documentaire à la gloire de Pierre Boulez qui, du haut de ses 85 ans, peut se présenter comme le Grand Maître de la Musique des XXème et XXIème siècles. Pierre Boulez pour qui Keith Jarrett n'est qu'un mauvais pianiste de bar. Il est maintenant généralement admis chez les compositeurs que Pierre Boulez n'a pas vraiment fait avancer le schmilblick. Ses "œuvres" sont pour la plupart inaudibles, et au mieux pour certaines un bon remède contre l'insomnie. Fut-ce au moins un grand chef ? J'en doute, et si j'en crois les commentaires de certains amis qui ont été dirigés par lui, le qualificatif qui lui conviendrait le mieux ne serait pas "grand" mais "odieux". Enfin, passons encore…
Quoi de commun entre Boulez et les nanotechnologies ? C'est simple : une part monstrueuse de l'argent public dépensé contre, ou sans même l'avis des contribuables. C'est la démocratie, et cela mérite bien quelques émissions du service public…
Et pour illustrer ce propos, une nano-impro qui ne mange pas de pain, sans autre prétention que d'être écouté distraitement comme un morceau de piano-bar, et qui plus est en do majeur.
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C'est étrange, mais moi aussi je connais des musiciens qui travaillent régulièrement avec Boulez , et ceux-ci sont loin de le trouver odieux .Quant à ses oeuvres , les avez-vous seulement écoutées ? Il est si facile , et depuis des années, de cracher sur Boulez - question de mode , affaire de jalousie ...
Bon, je me doutais qu'en employant le même ton provocateur que Boulez, la polémique n'allait pas tarder à naître !
J'admets sans problème qu'il puisse paraître odieux aux yeux de certains et sympathique à d'autres. A vrai dire, peu importe, je dis juste qu'un "grand" chef fait l'unanimité, ce qui n'est pas le cas de Boulez. Mais au vu des enregistrements que je connais de lui, c'est au moins un bon chef.
En ce qui concerne ses œuvres, oui, ayant passé quelques années en fac de musicologie, j'en ai écouté plus d'une. Ma préférée reste "Le marteau sans maître" qui, lors d'un concert dirigé par Boulez lui-même à la Cité de la Musique, m'a plongé dans un état d'hébétude somnambulique somme toute fort agréable.
Et dans le monde de la musique, la mode a toujours été plutôt d'encenser Boulez, par snobisme : si on aime Boulez, c'est qu'on a compris sa musique, que l'on fait partie des initiés... Or, la musique, avant d'être comprise intellectuellement, se doit d'être ressentie. C'est sans doute là que nos avis divergent.
Je ne crache pas sur Boulez, je dis juste que c'est à mon avis un compositeur mineur, qu'on aura plus ou moins oublié dans quelques décennies, alors que par exemple un Giacinto Scelsi, méconnu du grand public, aura beaucoup plus d'impact sur les générations futures.
Mais cet avis n'engage que moi.
...je n'aurais pas dû réagir de façon si agressive ... Il est évident que votre avis est respectable .Si j'ai bondi, c'est par habitude , par réflexe , car depuis des lustres des gens de mon entourage sont montés au crêneau pour se moquer de mes goûts musicaux .Si je vous disais ce que j'ai entendu quand j'ai osé dire que j'aimais Berg ( ceci de la part de personnes ne l'ayant jamais écouté)... Bref, cela m'a rendue chatouilleuse et méfiante .
Maintenant, je vous dirai que je ne prétends pas comprendre la musique de Boulez ; elle me touche , voire m'émeut .Bien sûr, comme vous je pense que la musique doit être "ressentie" !
Cordialement , Isabelle
P.S. en dehors du monde musical, c'est l'inverse, on canarde Boulez par snobisme ...
J'oubliais ce qui m'avait arrêtée à ma première lecture : qualifier les oeuvres de Boulez d' "inaudibles" ne me paraît pas très fin , surtout de la part de quelqu'un qui appartient au monde musical et dont on pourrait attendre une attitude moins sectaire.
Cela me rappelle le "très écoutable" dont usait une amie qui par ailleurs confondait Wagner et Berg ...et certaines remarques d'élèves de Bac Pro concernant les oeuvres littéraires étudiées " insignifiantes" .
Tout d'abord, merci d'avoir pris le temps de me lire, puis de me répondre !
Ensuite, puisque vous évoquez Alban Berg, laissez-moi vous dire que l'un de mes meilleurs souvenirs d'étudiant en musicologie reste celui où un professeur fit écouter à un amphi entier l'intégrale de la Sonate de Berg interprétée par Glenn Gould. Un moment magique. J'éprouve le plus grand respect pour Berg, Webern et Schoenberg, et ne place pas du tout les sérialistes qui leur ont suivi sur le même plan. Pire encore, l'école de la "nouvelle complexité" représentée notamment par Ferneyhough. Mais bon, je préfère ne pas m'étendre sur ce sujet, ça me prendrait quelques paragraphes supplémentaires.
Quant à l'adjectif "inaudible", je veux bien le remplacer par "insupportable" qui est plus subjectif : non, je ne supporte pas certaines œuvres de Boulez, encore moins celles de Ferneyhough (enfin, le peu que je connais, parce que mon masochisme a des limites !), et je n'étonnerai sans doute personne en disant que j'ai également du mal à supporter certains solos de saxophonistes hystériques qui prétendent faire du jazz !
Ce n'est peut-être pas très fin, mais c'est pour moi la meilleure manière d'exprimer ce que je ressens.
(Par contre, je supporte bien l'alto joué au couteau dans quelques chansons du Velvet Underground, ce qui prouve que tout cela est vraiment très subjectif !)
Enfin, et j'aurais peut-être dû commencer par là, cette discussion m'a poussé à ajouter un nouveau billet intitulé "Un café et Dodéca", illustré d'une improvisation qui j'espère vous plaira !
Mais c'est moi qui vous remercie d'avoir lu mes "éclats" !
Pour être honnête ma première rencontre avec Berg fut douloureuse, mais je n'avais que 14 ans ( en ce temps-là les profs de musique n'avaient peur de rien )...et je me suis rattrapée depuis.
Bah, nous avons nos goûts qui ne sont pas toujours ceux de tout le monde ... heureusement ! Et puis moi, un jour c'est un morceau de Xenakis qui m'a rendue presque malade ...j'étais bien désolée,voire honteuse, mais bon, ça ne passait pas ... Et dans un autre genre ( mais vraiment "autre", n'est-ce pas... ) je vous dirai que j'étais voir le film "Le Concert", qui m'a fait passer un moment agréable, sauf que... je ne supporte pas le concerto pour violon de Tchaikovsky , et là j'ai de quoi me faire des ennemis .
Sur ce je vous souhaite un bon dimanche ,
Cordialement, Isabelle
C'est quelque chose qui m'a toujours frappé : souvent, les musiciens les plus confirmés se retrouvent en quelque sorte bloqués face à une partie plus ou moins importante de la musique contemporaine... Alors qu'un illettré musical comme moi, qui n'a jamais fait une heure de solfège (sans parler du reste), peut se retrouver à l'aise face aux oeuvres de Boulez, que je ne "comprends" peut-être pas (en tout cas, ses écrits théoriques, pas du tout, ça c'est sûr!), mais que j'aime énormément : du Marteau à Sur Incises en passant par Pli selon pli...
En tant que chef, c'est aussi pour moi un bonheur (presque...) constant : souvenirs merveilleux d'un second acte de Parsifal avec l'orchestre du CNSM, d'un récent concert Mahler à Pleyel, d'un concert Schönberg tout aussi récent au même endroit...
Bonjour,
En voyant votre blog je constate que vous n'êtes pas si "illettré musical" que vous le prétendez ! Pour le moins mélomane, et j'ajouterais que ce n'est évidemment pas le solfège qui fait le musicien.
La seule explication que je pourrais donner au constat que vous faites, c'est que les compositeurs contemporains dont on parle ici (Boulez, Ferneyhough & co.) obligent les interprètes à jouer des choses "contre-nature".
Bonjour,
j''ai travaillé presque 25 ans auprès de Pierre Boulez à l'Ensemble Intercontemporain au service relations publiques et pédagogie. Pierre Boulez n'est pas le personnage "odieux" comme certains peuvent l'affirmer. Il aime la qualité et déteste l'incompétence certes, mais de travailler à ces côtés m'a apporté beaucoup et dans un respect mutuel.
Il m'a appris à vouloir "toujours faire mieux" pour la satisfaction du public sur le plan musical et pédagogique.,Est-cela être odieux ?
Travailler à ses côtés a été un vrai plaisir. Il "tire vers le haut" toutes les personnes qui le cotoyent. Je mets à profit encore aujourd'hui toutes ses exigences légitimes qu'il m'a cordialement et humainement demandées aux cours de ces 25 ans, je l'en remercie et lui renouvelle encore toute mon admiration.
Chère Madame,
Merci de votre témoignage. Je pense pour ma part avoir suffisamment développé mon point de vue dans les commentaires précédents.
Je reste étonné, quoique pas vraiment surpris, que ce soit Boulez qui suscite le plus de commentaires sur mon blog, et non les improvisations.
Bien à vous
les relations de Boulez avec les orchestres sont loin d'avoir été houleuses ou odieuses...Boulez est un maitre du joke voire d'une certaine detente avec des ochestres qui jouent le jeu!simplement Maitre Boulez est habitué de travailler à un certain niveau, à un rythme imposé par le systeme américain (dix ans pleins à New yotk, plus des invitations dans le top five!+ chicago +cleveland, ou encore à la philarmonie de Vienne ou de Berlin, bref des orchestres de manchots...) ou à l'eic...
Un chef comme Pierre Boulez- mais ce serait vrai aussi pour un Salonen un Eotvos,...) se présente face à des musiciens maitrisant une partition de a à z, et capable de "monter" rapidement un programme...même des plus difficiles techniquement ou solfégiquement..
pour bien connaitre le milieu de la pédagogie musicale, la sphere latine (france, italie, belgique francophone...) a, par sa méthodologie du solfege non appliquée à l'instrument, un retard énorme sur les pays anglo saxons! il suffit pour s'en convaincre de voir le nombre de services souhaités par certains orchestres , deux ou trois fois plus élevés en France qu'aux usa...pour un même programme!!!ce n'est pas une question de compétence mais de systeme et de formation...
des lors un musicien lambda dont à la frustration doit etre inversement proportionnelle au talent - bref le musicien français " du rang " le plus moyen qui soit... et qui a ans doute fait apres une grande carriere internationale dans un orhstre du top five américain- ne fait sans doute qu'exprimer les tragiques limites de son incompétence...
quant à la place de Boulez dans l'histopire de la musique, il est clair qu'elle passe en trois phases...
-la phase de formation du langage dans la sphere post webernienne, avec des oeuvres lapidaires et incendiaires , rimbaldiennes dirais- je (notations version piano les deux premueres sonates, la sonatine, dans une certaine mesure le visage nuptial,dont la redaction definitive appartient à la 3eme époque .(1945-1951)
-une deuxieme phase de radicalisation experimentale, passant par les exces et la secheresse du serialisme intégral, menant au paradoxe -theorie du chaos oblige- que la musique la plus maitrisée dans ses parametres semble être la plus anarchique, comme elle refuse les notions classiques de rythme, d'harmonie, de mélodie, au profit d'un pointillisme perdant le sens de la ligne pour un maximum de détails...Boulez a retiré un grand nombre d'oeuvres de son catalogue de cette période,qui de son propre aveu sont devenues inaudibles, (polyp^honie X- enregistrement col legno, pour de longues nuits d'insomnie)voire avec le recul involontairement comiques (poesie pour pouvoir, les deus études sur bandes magnétiques-meme reference discographique, et meme le premier livre des structures aussi passionnant que la lecture de botin de telephone à 4 heures du matin par une nuit d'hiver...)...
certes il y a le marteau bien sonnant sorte d'oasis dans le desert seriel, mais qui me semble aujourd'hui daté plus que faire date, et sans doute le chef d oeuvre boulezien pli selon pli (un peu moins marqué par les dehanchements seriels de la ligne vocale)... à noter que la dialectique "oeuvre " ouverte..ne le restera pas tres longtemps (3emesonate, finalement assez anecdotique...) cette periode va grosso modo de 1951-62 et est ponctuée par l'immonde "penser la musique aujourd'hui" sorte de livre rouge du Mao de la pensée sérielle...)
-3eme epoque ; l'emergence du chef d'orchestre...de1963 à aujourd'hui, la mise en perspective d'un musée imaginaire de la pensée musicale occidentale selon le prisme deformant boulézien,où certains precurseurs geniaux (janacek,szymanowsky,...) ne trouveront que tardivement leur place,) certains seront irrémédiablement recalés (sibelius,surtout, Dutilleux plus pres de nous) voire méprisés et insultés (britten, tipett, chostakovitch usicien certes tres inegal mais parfois passionnant...) bref cette brillante carriere de chef, on ne saura jamais si elle est la cause ou la consequence du tarissement compositionnel boulezien... incapable de renouveler rapidement son langage à la suite de la crise du serialisme!
beaucoup de torses inachevés de patitions qui auraient pu être de grandioses fresques symphoniques "wagnériennes" (figure double prismes limités à 20 minutes et qui se termine en queue de poisson, alors que la musique devient émotionnellement intéressante, éclat multiples qui theoriquement devait aller du solo de piano jusqu'au grand orchestre..., repons qui devait "durer" 90 minutes et n'enfait que la moitié, idem pour cummings ist der dicgter qui devait enfiler plusieurs textes du poete américains et ne fait que14 minutes..., sans parler du cycle des notations orchestrales que bouboule malgré bien des efforts n'arrive pas à mener à bien...chicago attend les v vi et viii depuis 13 ans! et le cycle total des douze ne verra sans doute jamais le jour par comparaison , Friedrich Cerha a mis un peu plus de dix ans à terminer son cycle des 8 spiegel pour orchestre , malgré une activité pedagogique et directionnelle au moins aussi intense que celle de Pierre Boulez!...
le concerto pour violon pour anne sophie mutter (anthemes III) est dans les cartons depuis plus de dix ans! et ne parlons pas des spêctres d'un opéra sans cesse reporté (on parle beaucoup d'en attendant godot pour 2015, apres les negres ou les paravents dejean genet, dont on n'a meme pas l'ombre d'une esquisse...si ces deux projets Genet n'ont jamais été que du pipeau, comme le concerto pour piano antiphonies pour Pollini - recyclé peut etre dans "incises et sur incises???- ou des lieder sur des textes de Trakl que jean pierre Deruen avait annoncé sur france musique en 1986 -87 ey dont l'on n'a jamais la moindre trace )
bref, Boulez contraiement à son maitre Messiean ou ses "ennemis" Xenakis ou Scelsi, ne laisse pas un catalogue d'oeuvres, amis un chantier incroyable, qui montre atrocement les limites de son pouvoir créatif et du dépasement d'une esthétique irremediablement datée! et les guignols charognards qui tournent autour du Maitre en vantant les mérites du fragment et de l'inachevé refusent de
voir en ce vrai "foutoir" de works in progress autre chose qu'une certaine stérilité créarice!
j'ai peut etre des mots tres durs, mais c'est franchement ce que je pense!
quant au chef d'une précision légendaire mais parfois tres relative (sa water music de Haendel est carrément grotesque- et par deux fois!!! )ou stylistiquement inexistante (la gran partita de Mozart est un sommet du genre dans la vacuité ! - decca) il passse parfois au sein d'une même oeuvre de l'enchantemant à la frustration la plus seche (9eme de Mahler avec chicago dgg) voire du total contre sens (une troisieme de Roussel elephantesque,-sony- un divertimlento de Bartok pesant lourd et plombé, avec les cordes de chicago au grand complet!réécoutez sandor vegh et la camerata de salzbourg ou Harnoncourt avec l'orchestre de chambre d'Europe-dgg-!)des debussy (surtout les premiers...) sans arriere plan sonore ou psychologique bref sans mystere...(le pelleas le plus polaire de l'histoire de dique, chanté dans un sabir que l'on ose pas appeler "français"...)
des reussites extremement variables chez mahler (2 eme et 7eme symphonies a peu pres totalement ratées - 4eme et 6eme parfois tres discutables )
bref c'est dans l'ecole de Vienne , certains Bartok avec New york, Ravel , Messaien(quoique etexpecto soit tres discutable dans des tempi trop rapides réécotez la version de reinbert de Leeuw chez Montaigne), Boulez himself, et bien sur les musicieisn de la jeune génération proche de sa propre esthétique que l'on trouve Boulez chef à son meilleur...
de là à en fare une icone, style Bernstein pour intello, il y a un pas que je ne franchirais pas!
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した。
どれだけトイレ
が頻繁かというと、夜中
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むくらいなので
苦痛です。
便所が近くなる理由として
考えられることは、飲み物を一度に多く飲んで
しまうことだと思い
ます。喉が乾きやす
い体質であるため
、サーモマグをカバンに入れているのです。
頻繁にトイレの心配をしていることも、要因なので
はないかと思われます。
トイレに関しては子
どものころに大惨事に見舞われてし
まい、忘れることが
できません。
下っ腹を押さえる癖があること
も、便所が近
くなってしまう原因ではない
かと思います。つ
いつい下っ腹をてのひらで圧迫してしまう癖が
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C’est quand même bien sexiste comme post…
On y pense pas mais ce que mentionne ce grand homme :
C'est en devenant vieux que vous êtes devenu couillon ou c'est de
naissance ?
- Marcel Pagnol.
Merci pour ces explications. On ne connait pas tout du premier coup c'est
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